reliant on Muller's 4 vol Post-Reformation Reformed Dogmatics. For the Christian mind seeking to understand the nature of God, a fundamental paradox poses a philosophical stumbling block: how can God be both a wholly independent, infinite being yet also be an interactive force in the finite plane of creation? Rather, in giving us a covenantal and Christocentric basis for how we understand God and the manner in which he has revealed himself, Oliphint has made, I would say, a valuable, contribution to Christian theology. This is a thick book of serious theology; it is certainly not a light read. created properties are discussed relative to God’s es- sential character (e.g., how can an eternal God speak at a time in history? © Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals, Inc. All rights reserved, About the Alliance Principles & Practice in Defense of Our Faith. 1:3) – it seems to me that he would have allowed him (instead of the Reformed tradition) to define God’s essence for us. Oliphint, God with Us, 110; emphasis added. .” (13n8). Dr. K. Scott Oliphint Is professor of Apologetics and Systematic Theology at Westminster Theological Seminary. Reviewed in the United States on December 30, 2016 K. Scott Oliphint teaches apologetics and systematic theology at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia and is an Orthodox Presbyterian minister. Rev. The well-known distinction between de potentia absoluta Dei and de potentia ordinata Dei is highlighted - incidentally, a distinction Calvin rejected - in order to show that God's ad extra works (potentia ordinata) are freely, not necessarily, ordained "according to God's covenantal properties and attributes" (243, 258). New book by Rev. Quotes from Oliphint's book: Rather, when Scripture says that the Lord’s anger was kindled, it really was kindled.Because God is personal, we should expect that he will react in different ways to things that please and displease him. K. Scott Oliphint (PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary) is professor of apologetics and systematic theology at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia and has written numerous scholarly articles and books, including God With Us. Paul Helm recently wrote a piece called, “Eternal Just as the incarnate Son remained fully God while also taking on a human nature that brou. Having grounded divine condescension in the person of the Son, Oliphint makes an extended, and highly valuable, argument for the view that, "while the incarnation is sui generis" (157), Christ has always been the mediator between God and man (156). In God With Us, K. Scott Oliphint finds an answer in the person of Jesus Christ incarnate—the manifestation of God and the cornerstone of creation. Indeed, Oliphint suggests that the covenantal properties of the Son from the beginning of creation are a "proleptic pointer to the one unique event" (208, see also 220). In locating the revelation of God primarily through the Son, not simply the Son as the God-man, Oliphint brings us to the manner in which we are to understand divine condescension. June 22, 2020. K. Scott Oliphint (PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary) is professor of apologetics and systematic theology at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia and has written numerous scholarly articles and books, including God With Us. This chapter is invaluable for several reasons. More to the point of the unfolding of revelation, Oliphint eventually makes the argument I was hoping he would make when he notes that the Son's covenantal dealings since the creation, whereby human affections are ascribed to him, are a preparation from "that climactic representation of the Logos in Jesus Christ" (207). Written by K. Scott Oliphint | Tuesday, April 30, 2019. In fact, by making use of the communicatio idiomatum, he explains how we may use this theological term to make sense of passages that imply ignorance in God. Oliphint’s contention is that in “a multitude of discussions and assumptions . Find books The knowledge we have of God depends on his decision to condescend, which was purely voluntary on God's part. For this reason, once we affirm, as Oliphint does, an orthodox view of the attribute of infinity (71-72), for example, it should necessarily follow that God's eternity (73-79), immensity (79-82), immutability (82-85), and impassibility (86-88) are consistent with that attribute. Dr. K. Scott Oliphint, professor of apologetics and systematic theology.. Start by marking “God with Us: Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God” as Want to Read: Error rating book. An ordained minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, Dr. Oliphint served in pastoral ministry in Texas before coming to Westminster in 1991. Besides that, I am not quite sure what Oliphint means that the two natures "cannot be divided in such a way as to exist as a dual personality in the one person of Jesus Christ" (141). Revelation is focused on the Son, but not "confined" to him since God is una essentia. Aside from offering a slightly different lense (covenantal attributes) to view God's attributes, I'm not sure what Oliphint offers that's different from what many others throughout the tradition have already affirmed. But first, Oliphint's reading of Nestorius is flawed. This brief summary does not do justice to the careful argumentation that Oliphint presents. God with Us Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God - … Where other theological efforts view the study of Jesus as simply one aspect of a systematic approach, Oliphint puts a primary focus on understanding the Son of God as both the quintessential revelation of God’s character and the … For God to be "with us" he must become something non-divine. Editor’s note: On the Credo Magazine blog we like to have a mix of lay-level posts as well as more advanced academic posts.We also like to have good interaction and thoughtful debate between thinkers. The following are some of the points that stood out to me: The book is well written and clear, however there is a good bit of Latin terms and the language is what you'd expect from a book that covering philosophical theology. But it is a worthwhile read. Thus the Son of God, even before the incarnation, took to himself "created, covenantal, human properties, all the while maintaining ... his essential divinity" (198). It is a magnificence that contains two glorious truths, inextricably linked, without which the Christian God … Principles & Practice in Defense of Our Faith. With that in mind, Oliphint is careful to point out that the divine (essential/ontological) interprets the covenantal (contingent or historical), and not vice versa (199, 210). Oliphint shows how the character and attributes of God are derived from his names (52). So, for example, does God change? by Crossway Books. It is indeed true that Calvin held to the distinction between persons-appropriate and essence-appropriate in order to argue that the Son did not derive his essence from the Father, only his personhood, and so is autotheos (see 175). Dr. K. Scott Oliphint, professor of apologetics and systematic theology, recently published a new book, God with Us: Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God. This distinction means that our knowledge of God cannot be archetypal knowledge, but must be ectypal knowledge; that is, we have knowledge on a created (eikonic) level (92). A careful read will lead to a deeper doxology. In conclusion, I'm delighted to commend Professor Oliphint's book. I learned a lot about Theology proper, Christology, theological method, epistemology, philosophy, and contemporary issues all in only 270 pages. I would very much be interested in how Oliphint relates the two natures of Christ and what role the Holy Spirit plays in Christ's life. 304 pp. Let us know what’s wrong with this preview of, Published Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. Goodreads helps you keep track of books you want to read. 50), but historically there were theologians who connected the pactum with predestination. Dr. K. Scott Oliphint (PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary) is professor of apologetics and systematic theology at Westminster Theological Seminary. My copy is heavily highlighted with notes and comments. Dr. Oliphint’s academic interests include Cornelius Van Til’s apologetics, the relationship between Christian apologetics and philosophy, and the doctrine of This retypeset work, originally from Van Til’s famous Christian Evidences class at Westminster Seminary, includes a foreword and explanatory notes from K. … 304 pp. Stick with it. Anyone who wants to get a taste of strong Robust Reformed Theology Proper ought to read this book. In the Fall of 2019, it became clear to Dr. Oliphint that all of his attempts to summarily express his theological thesis with respect to God With Us ( GWU) had been unsuccessful. Essentially, no! North Bay, ON, P1B 0C7, Philadelphia Conference on Reformed Theology, Blue Ridge Institute for Theological Education, Quakertown Conference on Reformed Theology, International Council on Biblical Inerrancy. Therefore, according to Oliphint, Christology is fundamental to God's revelation since we understand God in the context of the covenant. He then looks at the thorny question of how exegetical theology relates to systematic theology (28-29) before closing with a useful discussion of the subtle distinction between antinomies and paradoxes (36-38). Canadian Committee of The Bible Study Hour K. Scott Oliphint also understands this to be an important issue, and touches upon it in the introductory chapter of his book God With Us. Had Oliphint actually treated Christ as the quintessential revelation of God – as the one who reveals God’s very essence (hypostasis, Heb. Publisher's $16.50. Following from that position, Oliphint provides an able critique of Barthian views (espoused by Bruce McCormack) on Christ and the decree (259-66), namely, that God's "primal decision to assume a human nature is of the essence of who God is" (264), which is indeed a "strange idea" (264). A denial of God's eternity as understood by Augustine and Boethius (i.e., God has no past or future, but only an eternal present/timeless existence) will have obvious implications for how we understand God's omniscience. Oliphint proposes a refinement, not an alternative, to accepted doctrine. In this chapter, more than the others, Oliphint is critical of the Reformed tradition, particularly Bavinck and Turretin. Find books But he does not simply do that. Peter Enns comes in for strong, but appropriate, criticism regarding his hermeneutical method and its deleterious impact upon his doctrine of God (20-26). If I understand Oliphint correctly, God's own revealed passions in the Old Testament have an implicit Christological focus insofar as what is true covenantally becomes true ontologically when Christ assumes a true human nature. In short, “in Christ, we have both ‘our God’ and ‘his people. Attributes of God (Crossway, 2011). PO Box 24087, RPO Josephine Excellent! While it is true that Christ's incarnation was unique (sui generis), his mediation began prior to the incarnation, and was proleptically analogical to his mediation after his assumption of a human nature. Professor Scott Oliphint's book, God With Us: Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God , is a welcome addition to the Reformed, evangelical, and scholarly communities. Welcome back. But subsequent Reformed theologians, with the exception of a few, did not embrace Calvin's more radical statements on the Son's aseity (contra Oliphint, p. 176). Cornelius Van Til, Scott Oliphint presents us with COVENANTAL - PCA Bookstore Covenantal Apologetics July 29, 2013. This is definitely a book that will required slow reading. God with Us: Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God | K. Scott Oliphint | download | Z-Library. Regardless, in highlighting the deity of Christ, Oliphint shows that divine condescension in the Old and New Testaments takes place in the person of the Son; however, it was not the unique properties of the person of the Son that were revealed, but "God himself whom the Logos revealed" (179). Having said that, Oliphint asserts that because of the incarnation "there must be some real and fundamental sense in which God can have or experience passions" (87). Oliphint aims to defend the aseity of God while not trimming the Bible statements that speak of God’s real interaction with his creation (Open Theism drops aseity; appeals to anthropopathism or anthropomorphism can trim the actual statements of Scripture). Chapter two begins with a basic and "fundamental" distinction: the Eimi/eikon distinction, "the distinction of the 'I AM' and his image" (91). Inasmuch as Oliphint regards the assumed covenantal properties to be the means by which God relates to and acts in the world, it seems that God does not relate himself to us as God, but as the (covenantal) creature he has become in assuming to himself new non-divine properties of being. Oliphint sees the incarnation as a way forward. . Download books for free. Ebooks library. 304 pp. K. Scott Oliphint, God with Us: Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God (Crossway, 2011). As Oliphint notes, divine simplicity "affirms not that God has a nature, but that God is his nature" (67). In the Introduction, Oliphint addresses, among other things, hermeneutics and theology proper. Just as the incarnate Son remained fully God while also taking on a human nature that brought limitations (Jesus necessarily remained omniscient as God while as a man was ignorant of some things), so God retains the attributes that are essential to his nature while entering into covenant with us and thereby picking up additional covenantal attributes that account for his relation with us. He adds, "Jesus was not schizophrenic as a result of the incarnation" (141). Dr. K. Scott Oliphint Is professor of Apologetics and Systematic Theology at Westminster Theological Seminary. “It would not be an overstatement to say that the way to a proper understanding of God and his character is given foremost in a proper understanding of the Son of God come in the flesh, Jesus Christ.3”, Westminster Theological Seminary Recommended Reading, Melissa Albert Recommends YA Tales Where the Real World Gets Real Magical. Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God. Joint Statement of Westminster Theological Seminary and Dr. K. Scott Oliphint Concerning God with Us. New book by Rev. Dr. In other words, God freely ordained his covenantal condescension, which explains his manner of dealing with Abraham ("now I know"). I’ll state upfront that I do not believe this is heresy. Suffice it to say, the freedom of God's decree - even though God's will is essential to his nature - means that God freely chose to assume covenantal properties (258) and was not coerced in any manner. In chapter three Oliphint shows how God reveals himself in the person of the Son. Refresh and try again. This happens principally in the person of the Son, the one who in time became flesh. It could be that what Oliphint intends is that God willed and effected a change in modes of divine revelation What I mean is that, in some sense, it felt like a condensed version of sections from Muller's 4 vol work. But, in his covenantal condescension, yes (185-86). Nonetheless, Oliphint accurately notes the differences between the Reformed and Lutheran views of the communicatio idiomatum, as well as the meaning and significance of the extra Calvinisticum (142-151), in order to show that the Son of God "did not ... give up any essential aspect of his deity" (151). by K. Scott Oliphint. The dual influence of Vos and Van Til are obvious. God With Us December 05, 2011. In God With Us, K. Scott Oliphint finds an answer in the person of Jesus Christ incarnate--the manifestation of God and the cornerstone of creation. He places a strong emphasis on God's independence/aseity, but so much that it often appears to function as a controlling attribute. The substance of God With Us is perhaps best captured in a footnote early in the text. In it we have a Reformed theologian who takes seriously the past, but is not content to merely restate old truths, however helpful that may be. Following in the footsteps of groundbreaking apologist Cornelius Van Til, Scott Oliphint presents us with COVENANTAL - PCA Bookstore Covenantal Apologetics July 29, 2013. He does not explicitly use the totus/totum distinction (i.e., the whole Christ is present, but not the whole of Christ), but the concept is addressed. Then again, Oliphint's goal is make sense of God's independence in himself and his dependence (through "condescension") seen in Christ. Oliphint, God with Us, 13. However, as important as the exodus is, it is even more important for us to see that in Exodus 3, God reveals the majestic magnificence of His character. Professor Scott Oliphint’s book, God With Us: Divine Condescension and the Attributes of God , is a welcome addition to the Reformed, evangelical, and scholarly communities. It is clear that Oliphint in many places attempts to say nothing new, but rather root his claims in history. Just like you can't swallow prime rib without chewing a bit, you can't read this book without thinking a bit. Oliphint interacts deeply with the usual suspects, Calvin and Bavinck, but also is at home with Protestant Scholastics like Turretin as well as contemporary philosophers like Brian Leftow, Thomas Morris, and Eleonore Stump. On-line books store on Z-Library | Z-Library. Nestorius wanted to insist on the subjective continuity between the Logos and Christ; he was quite happy with the Chalcedonian Creed, and was even prepared to use "theotokos" to describe the incarnation. Well worth the difficulty. In the example of God testing Abraham ("now I know", Gen. 22:12), according to Oliphint's paradigm, God, essentially speaking, infallibly knew that Abraham would pass the test; but because God covenantally condescends to creation, he ascribes to himself language that is "conducive to his interaction with creation generally, and specifically with his people" (194). . Reformed theologians have historically argued that it is technically incorrect to speak of the "attributes" of God because God's holiness is his wisdom is his eternity is his goodness, etc. Incarnation, when ignorance is attributed to God 's part, we have of God ” as to. Predestination '' ( 141 ) to see what your friends thought of this book thinking... 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